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Are they natural phenomenon or alien spacecraft tonight the mystery of the Marfa lights?

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Welcome to sightings on Tim white

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Tonight startling new pictures of a UFO encounter that has top analysts locked in a heated debate

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The authenticity of the pictures is above suspicion because they were taken by specialists aboard the space shuttle discovery

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For the past year the United States government has avoided discussing

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What is potentially the most important 30 seconds of video footage to have emerged from the US space program?

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The footage looks fairly innocuous, but some believe that something is going on here

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NASA doesn't want us to know about on September the 12th 1991

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STS 48 lifted off into space for what NASA officials expected to be a routine shuttle mission

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But what discoveries cameras would capture high above the earth during that mission would prove to be anything but routine I heard

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One or two of the astronauts

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exclaim in shortwave radio. What is that? What is that?

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NASA says the objects could be space ice satellites or debris

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Ufologists interpret the footage as either alien spacecraft engaged in armed battle or an armed response to alien spacecraft by

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SDI the so-called Star Wars defense system this particular day. They were flying over the Philippines. She'll see

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What looks like stars in the sky and then you'll see these objects off to the right of the screen

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Within a couple of minutes you will see an object come out of the clouds

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To the north part of your screen and it's heading to the north northwest

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In about four or five seconds you'll see a flash in the lower left hand corner of the screen

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And then you'll see a streak of light go by that object

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Just missed it there and the one in the lower right hand corner of the screen

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what's being enacted up there is basically a

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Contact with an alien

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civilization and

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That those particular craft are not from here the flash that we're seeing is probably

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Mechanism of Star Wars is this finally concrete proof that we're being visited by intelligent light from another planet space industry officials answer with an

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Emphatic no a lot of things we see on the picture from space are things we're used to seeing here in the control center down here in Houston

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They're ordinary events that surround the spaceship pieces coming off

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Water dumps pieces of ice insulation

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There's little pieces ten maybe twenty feet away from the camera and as they're flowing across the

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Field of view of the camera

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There's a flash of light as one of the maneuvering jets on the shuttle fires under autopilot control

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Anything floating out there is like opening your door in a windy day and watching the dust in your house blow out the burst of

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Gas from the jet pushes these little pieces of debris and off they go if that is true

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Why doesn't the horizon line in the curvature of the earth's latitude change when that rocket fires in the upper left quadrant or to the

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NASA's explanation defies the laws of physics according to University of Nebraska at Omaha physicist dr. Jack Katcher

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NASA's claim is that these are all pieces of ice and

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That this flash down here was an attitude rocket adjuster to adjust the position of the shuttle

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So it's going to push it in a certain direction and the exhaust came up like this

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Well if that happened then then the particle should move up in this direction those two pretty well fit that scenario

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but I have a real problem with the rest of them because

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First of all this one just starts here and continues on down this way just straight the whole time now

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That's the wrong direction for an exhaust in this direction too

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So I really have a lot of trouble seeing how you could make an explanation like that work

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Analysis by aerospace propulsion expert David Froning refutes NASA's belief that the objects are conventional spacecraft

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Its behavior doesn't look like a normal orbital debris to make a turn like that in a conventional vehicle

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It would just be impossible and to do that you really have to actually warp and twist space

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He certainly do appear to be objects that are intelligently controlled

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NASA has issued several statements insisting the UFOs are chunks of space ice

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But they refused to comment on two additional sightings that occurred later in the mission here one object is

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Intercepted by a rocket like projectile the object continues as more projectiles pass later on the dark side of the earth

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Another object comes into view soon a second faster moving object nearly collides with the first then continues out of frame

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What if then they were extraterrestrial craft

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Well, then there are some very scary things happening here

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Was it some kind of a missile that we were firing at them with and if that's the case

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Then why did we do that? It implies we're prepared to do that that we're almost expecting to encounter these things and

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Then we're hostile to them is our military prepared to launch offensive strikes against incoming UFOs

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Government officials won't respond. It's not a question of whether there is a government cover up about UFOs

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There is it's the most highly classified topic in all the government and military

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Has the military secretly developed SDI beyond public knowledge despite their denials there have been

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Developments for the space defense initiative of particle beam systems that could have particle beams were the kinds of speeds that we saw

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Going straight up in the space and if that is the case

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Why are we shooting at them? It implies that?

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We expected to see them and that we were ready to shoot and then we did shoot so we considered them hostile

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You can look at these kind of lights these kind of reports of the flying saucers coming around our spaceships

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In terms of exploration, this is very traditional. These are our sea serpents. These are our mermaids

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500 years ago when Columbus's ships went out and the men peered off at the horizon

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They could see little things in the horizon they would misinterpret them or interpret them in different ways or incorrect ways

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And come back and tell stories

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We're getting to the same sort of phenomena here

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Well, first of all a death ray or a laser beam that's in the Hollywood movie

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Shows up as a flash of light and a crash and a thunder and so forth

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That's Hollywood in reality these kinds of beams in space are invisible because they have nothing to

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Show up on except a target so you would not see a beam going across the picture

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James Oberg has devoted the last 18 years to aerospace research

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Although Oberg insists he is an independent analyst some ufologists believe he's part of a secret government conspiracy to debunk all UFOs

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It's a bit too trite and have been insulting to the intelligence of the average American to say

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You know it's something to do with space folklore space debris

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Let's not forget that these people are not some kind of UFO organization speaking for

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10,000 scientists out there. These are a couple of very far out people who are not even

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Accepted in the UFO movement. Is this merely ice from the space shuttle?

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Secret weapons testing the military won't disclose or is this finally proof that we're not alone in the universe

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It's only a matter of time, but I would wager by 1995

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This will be common knowledge and the fact that extraterrestrials are here will be accepted by everybody

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For a further perspective on the space shuttle footage, we've asked University of Nebraska at Omaha Physicist Dr. Jack Casher to join us

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Dr. Casher, thanks for coming in appreciate your time

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What evidence can you cite sir that those lights that we saw on the tape aren't conventional satellites?

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Well, I think the strongest evidence for me is I sat down and I put a transparency in front of the television set and I tracked

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Eight of those objects both before and after the flash and the main one did cut up sharply to the right

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Apparently in response if you would believe the ice theory of

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Attitude adjust your rocket down here that would push it up with it. It's exhaust two of the eight objects did that

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Just continued didn't react

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To went up into the left, which is the wrong direction and I have looked at that 50 a hundred times

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I just can't reconcile that in my own mind

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Have you been ostracized at all by the scientific community for for holding these particular beliefs?

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Not really you'd be surprised at the physicists that have come up after they've heard me speak about UFOs and say they're really surprised

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That there is evidence that is at least plausible that these things are real you sort of went out on a limb

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Dr. Casher you said that by 1995 these kinds of sightings would be commonplace. Why 1995?

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You know something the rest of us don't well

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I do have some contacts that have given me some information

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And I think I based some of it on that but I think that there is a groundswell of interest in UFOs

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people are being more open about the sightings that they have had and

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That just builds up and eventually what are you gonna do when when your friends tell you they have actually seen flying saucers

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The hovering above their houses you

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You after that happens to you a number of times you have to start believing some of it

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Dr. Casher have you seen a UFO yourself or anything that would lead you to personally believe that they're out there?

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Well, I haven't seen anything as spectacular say as a flying saucer

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But I have seen lights in the sky that that behave in a strange way that that you couldn't explain in terms of normal airplanes

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And I do teach astronomy and know where the constellations are and what meteors are so I can differentiate between those things and the object that I saw

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We're not airplanes and I'm not really sure what they were Dr. Jack Casher

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Thank you very much, and we will be back with more sightings in just a moment

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Coming up next what are these bizarre glowing balls of light some say natural phenomenon some say alien spacecraft

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We investigate the mystery of the Marfa lights

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Causes the Aurora Borealis those spectacular multi-colored curtains of light known as the northern lights

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But there is also another lesser known light phenomenon occurring in the night skies all over the world

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And it has continued to defy explanation for almost two centuries

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Start it out very slowly, but very brightly. There was a single bright yellow light. It was brilliant

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Closer it got it changed to a kind of a silvery green orb

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It seems to dance or move in a rhythmic play

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And then they go up in the sky

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And when they're up there

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What why they just have a big party up there

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They weren't hostile. They were very very friendly. It seemed they didn't chase us. They didn't

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Descend on us and they were soft in color

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Yellows soft greens blues. I don't think there's any question about the lights are there

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Marfa, Texas is a small town southwest of El Paso for the past

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150 years residents visitors and scientists have all looked into the light sky and seen dazzling

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Multi-colored lights dubbed the Marfa lights

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reported sighting state from Apache accounts in the early 1800s to the Wall Street Journal in 1984 I

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Think they're Satan's people telling the God's truth. They're ghost lights

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And it's ghosts

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It was just eerie to me. Nobody else is afraid that I was right

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Lifetime resident Bernd Campbell took these photographs of the lights using time-lapse photography

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And I saw this light coming across the area moving toward the power line and

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I assumed that it was following the power line toward me and I stood transfixed as a matter of fact

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I was scared very badly frightened. I don't know what they are. I don't claim to know

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I'm not sure I even want to know but I know that they do exist

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There are at least 100 zones that are regularly haunted by these curious light phenomena

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One of the most famous places is Marfa

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Paul Devereux is a London based earth sciences researcher who believes geology holds the answer to the Marfa lights

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These lights nobody knows what they are. They're rather exotic phenomena

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They're not UFOs. They're not flying sources. They're somehow produced by the Earth itself

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Right now an international team of scientists is in Marfa seeking an explanation to the light phenomenon

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The team is headed by one of the top physicists in the world Yoshihiko Otsuki

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This is a research work on the fireball the so-called

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We believe this is the kind of natural phenomena

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natural phenomena means some this is some kind of

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Atomous atmospheric

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The team has established a base camp just north of the official viewing site open to the public

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State of the art atmospheric technology has been flown in and set up all manner of recording devices are also in place

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Since the team does not know the true source of the Marfa lights

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They also acknowledge the spiritual a Buddhist priest performs a ritual he believes will summon the lights

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Early in the investigation the team was frustrated the lights did not appear

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Watched and watched

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But nothing we obtained nothing of filming

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Nothing I witnessed observation so we was very disappointed

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Mission specialist Ed Hendricks tried out new detection devices while the team waited

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Hendricks obsession with the Marfa lights began on February 2nd 1991 when he had his first sighting I

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Was flabbergasted. I don't think I've ever been the same since I've been fascinated and almost obsessed by it

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Trying to figure out what could possibly do something like that

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Hendricks specializes in the science of

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Spherics the study of the sounds of the atmosphere he has previously recorded strange sounds which accompany the appearance of the Marfa lights

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They're a long kind of descending pitch signals that sound something like

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On September 1st 1992 as Hendricks set up his equipment the team's first light suddenly appeared on the horizon

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There it is it's going again. It's flickering. Wow. It's got different colors

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It's got red and yellow

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And it's flashing flashing very rapidly. It's almost like a firefly

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It's very bright now it's getting brighter and

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It looks a little bit red. It's it's dividing in two the two pieces are moving apart there

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They go and they're getting real close

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Crossed again, and they're just continuing this thing back and forth

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Swinging back and forth and they're doing this as though

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This is what I think people mean when they say that the lights are doing a dance. I

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Think they're going

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What are these dancing

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Multicolored lights while this investigative team searches for an answer

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Other scientists say the lights are nothing more than the headlights of cars traveling out nearby route 67

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I don't believe there any facts to support them is we cannot say that there's

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No manifestation of the devil are flying saucers or Indian ghosts, but there are no facts to represent that

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There are some facts to indicate very strongly that what most people see our car lights on highway 67

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there are people who are skeptical about the Marfa lights and who believe that

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what everybody sees are car headlights and indeed many people do see car headlights and and

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Assume that they're Marfa lights and believe that but even the most serious skeptic the people who

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Attribute all the phenomenon to car headlights could not possibly have seen what we saw and conclude that they were looking at car headlights

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Because cars could not be made to do what we saw those lights do and with the sightings dating back to the early

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1800s car headlights must be ruled out in those cases

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Right now. I don't know what they are and I'm continuing to

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work on that

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I have some more years left and all those all that time going to continue to look at it until I figure it out

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We have no facts that illustrate that it's anything beyond the natural

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For the people who live in Marfa the parade of scientists and specialists who work here are just part of life

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And so too are the Marfa lights that they have witnessed their whole lives and explained in their own way

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It's just there

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And it's been there all these many years

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And with all these people trying to find what it is. I don't think they will not hope to don't

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It would be nice just to remain the Marfa mistress

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The problem with

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Understanding the Marfa lights is not that they can't be explained but that there are so many explanations theories range from UFOs to headlights

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To weather anomalies like ball lightning

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Some even suggest that the lights are jackrabbits who brushed up against phosphorus and vegetation

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But so far all these theories remain unproven

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Coming up next in a special sightings update from Wisconsin

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This man captured a bizarre image with his Polaroid camera that many believe is a ghostly apparition

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Bring the most recent roper pole on the paranormal

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18 and a half million Americans report having seen a ghost

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One of those people contacted us with a remarkable photograph that he took near his home in Hayward, Wisconsin

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Northern Wisconsin is a freshwater fishing paradise and some say a haven for ghostly apparitions

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Skeptics dismissed these stories as folklore designed to lure tourists

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But eyewitness accounts are plentiful and now potential hard evidence has surfaced an intriguing photograph. I looked up and here I see this

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White figure about the tree line and it's slowly descending towards the trees

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Al Denninger has been a fishing guide through the waters of the Chippewa flowage for 17 years

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He knows these waters like the back of his hand, but last October saw some he could explain

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You see that he passed the trees and slowly descend right above the shoreline and the object was 10 12 feet tall

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They took one picture of the with the Polaroid slowly this object moved down the shoreline that way towards

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We've about towards the west moved about 50 yards stayed there

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Maybe 10 15 seconds and slowly ascended right straight up into the sky and was gone

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Denninger claims he photographed this apparition of a human form floating above an area locals called ghost island

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Later he had his photograph enlarged for better analysis. I had the original looked at by a photo expert

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It says first of all, you can't do pop a Polaroid. He says well, I can't tell you what it is

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But whatever it is, it's really there when word of Denninger's photo got out more eyewitnesses came forward claiming they'd also seen the apparition

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two young men were fishing there at midnight and

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One of them saw a white-robed figure about eight feet from the ground

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Sort of floating among the graves. They'll send them the picture and they call it up and says that is what we saw

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Stories of discontented spirits haunting ghost island have existed since Wisconsin's Chippewa River was damned in the 1920s

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Causing floodwaters to engulf the islands historic cemetery

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Most of the graves were moved to higher ground

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But locals worry about the plots that were left behind

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Could the apparitions be restless souls searching for their displaced loved ones?

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I've always had an open mind and I've always figured that

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You're a little naive to think you're probably the only one in this universe, but

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Whatever I saw it definitely wasn't from anything I've ever seen before

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If you photographed or videotaped what you believe to be a ghost or if you've had an encounter with a paranormal

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Our sightings investigative team wants to know to report your sighting call

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Again to report your paranormal experiences call the sightings hotline at 1 900

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For new investigations into the unexplained for sightings. I'm Tim white. Good night

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Tomorrow see what happens after police arrest a suspect spend a wild night in county jail on an all-new cops

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Then when a pilot's landing gear fails a daring mid-air rescue is his only hope on an all-new code 3 tomorrow

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